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Interview #46: Twitter: AMOL Writing and Editing Process, Entry #75

Brandon Sanderson (10 March 2012)

I’ve been thinking lately of ways to give away digital copies of my books when you buy a hardcover. There are some issues with this.

BRANDON SANDERSON

I don’t know much about the logistics; it may be impossible. If there is a way to make this work, I’d propose it to Tor and Harriet for A Memory of Light .

BRANDON SANDERSON

Here’s a reddit thread where I mention issues with the process. Weigh in here or in that thread to give me advice.

SABERJ

The only way I could think of would be to include one-time use codes with the books. But what’s to stop people from selling?

BRANDON SANDERSON

Yeah. The other problem with that is securing the code. Books aren’t wrapped up, so the code could be scratched off/stolen easily.

BRANDON SANDERSON

My preferred method would be to put a code in a book that, then, you can redeem for free or a small price. But how do we secure it?

NIC JOHNSON

You don’t. Your stuff is already being pirated and publishers shouldn’t consider those lost sales. Trust people a la Apple.

BRANDON SANDERSON

I’m not worried about piracy. However, a digital code that can be used many times seems foolish. A one-use would be stolen.

BRANDON SANDERSON

One use has to be secured, or the person buying the book is in danger of being ripped off.

BRANDON SANDERSON

Multi-use means that we’re hosting the book, and paying the bandwidth, for those who want to pirate. Bad idea, I think.

NIC JOHNSON

I’ll host it for you. :) No charge.

BRANDON SANDERSON

Lol. One other problem is that this needs to be reasonable enough to the publisher’s ears to get them to go along.

NIC JOHNSON

My point exactly. Big Pub doesn’t get the new model. They consider pirated copies as lost sales. See Seth Godin for new model.

BRANDON SANDERSON

The publishers aren’t as ignorant as you think. The investors, however, are another story. (You’re right about them.)

BRANDON SANDERSON

Tor has done plenty of giving away free, DRM-free ebooks. They did it with Mistborn, for example.

NIC JOHNSON

Ah! To me as an outsider they are one and the same. :)

BRANDON SANDERSON

Publishers and editors in sf/f tend to be techies. Notice that Cory Doctorow, with Tor’s blessing, releases all of his books for free.

SABERJ

How is Marvel doing it? They don’t tend to wrap Comics either.

BRANDON SANDERSON

I think you order directly from them, and they send you the comic and deliver through their own secure app.

ANNE BURNER

Baen used to put a CD copy of the book inside the hardcover versions of @davidweber1 Honor Harrington books.

BRANDON SANDERSON

I asked if we could do that, and the answer was that it was expensive enough it couldn’t become the standard.

WES QUINT

Maybe like a gift card where it’s only active after purchase?

BRANDON SANDERSON

Yeah, this is probably the best idea. I don’t know how hard that is to accomplish, though.

SABERJ

A lot of textbooks used to include a disc in the book for additional material. Discs are a bit harder to steal than codes.

BRANDON SANDERSON

Textbooks also have a much larger profit margin than novels. I asked about discs for my last book, and the publisher said no.

BRANDON SANDERSON

They said it was just too expensive.

BENJYMOUS

Old school tech, I know, but how about a coupon you have to fill in with your email address then post back to the publisher?

BRANDON SANDERSON

Ha. You know, I never thought about that. The problem is, how do we keep people from stealing them out of the books?

BRANDON SANDERSON

People with a nice hardcover don’t want to cut their book apart to get a coupon.

BRANDON SANDERSON

Here are a couple of problems with what people are suggesting. 1) We don’t want to shrink wrap books, but a code can be stolen very easily.

BRANDON SANDERSON

Anything involving the retailer verifying a code, or printing one out, requires large-scale involvement of retailers.

BRANDON SANDERSON

That’s not something I can change. They may be working on this already. I want something I could take to Tor, that we could do in house.

TEREZ

Or if you’re talking about securing the code in the book…it seems easy enough with textbooks. Peel-off? :)

BRANDON SANDERSON

People would walk into the store, peel off the sticker, write down the code, then sell it or use it.

BRAD LICKMAN

How do you stop people from sharing a hardcover copy?

BRANDON SANDERSON

The physical product can be made to set off an alarm. A code can be copied and carried out.

ANDREW YAGER

Could codes be single use? That would largely get around the securing problem?

BRANDON SANDERSON

People would walk into the store, write down the code, go home and download the book.

KYLE

What about one-time scratch codes like what’s used on gift cards?

BRANDON SANDERSON

Those are usually activated by the retailer. I’d love for us to be able to do that, but it would involve more than I can do.

BRANDON SANDERSON

Another issue with this is that if I did it, I would need it to work for indy booksellers and not just Amazon/Barnes & Noble.

BRAD LICKMAN

Can you sell the digital copy at http://tor.com, which provides a coupon for the hardcover?

BRANDON SANDERSON

This is actually what I proposed to Tor a few years back, and they said they didn’t want to offend the retailers.

BRANDON SANDERSON

I still like the idea, though.

BRANDON SANDERSON

I won’t have time to reply to everyone here, but keep sending thoughts. I’ll read and see if I can come up with something to take to Tor.

BEN FOXWORTHY

How about this: Put the code in the book. Don’t secure it. Each code works three times. Hope people don’t abuse it.

BRANDON SANDERSON

That risks punishing the person who buys the book (but their code has been stolen and used.)

BRANDON SANDERSON (12 MARCH)

More on the A Memory of Light ebook thing. What would you guys think if I tried to talk Tor into a ‘special edition’ release.

BRANDON SANDERSON

A kind of ‘boxed set’ that came with hardcover, ebook, audiobook, a medallion or other keepsake, and maybe some interviews with me & Harriet.

BRANDON SANDERSON

Shrink wrapped & sold at bookstores for, say, $50 instead of $30? Does that get too far away from the ‘free ebook w/the hardcover’ concept?

TEREZ

It does seem to defeat the purpose, as far as most people would be concerned. Though many would buy it.

DAVE PUTNAM (22 MARCH)

A Memory of Light e-book release announced with three month gap. Can you explain the rationale behind this? Lot of vitriol on Tor site.

BRANDON SANDERSON

Harriet worries, among other things, at the impact on the bestseller lists by releasing at the same time.

BRANDON SANDERSON

Ebooks make her uncomfortable.

FYODOR

Making us wait three three months for the A Memory of Light ebook is very obnoxious and shows contempt for the fan base. I have been reading…

FYODOR

…WOT since 1992 and deeply resent this type of staggering.

BRANDON SANDERSON

I’ve been working on it. The delay is not Tor, but Harriet, who worries at the implications of releasing an ebook immediately.

BRANDON SANDERSON

She originally wanted a six month, or longer, delay. I was able to persuade her to move to three months.

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