This now reads interestingly: “With all his heart & desperation, he silently shouted at Bela to run…tried to will strength into her…
The Bela thing?
Rand heals Bela of her fatigue before Moiraine can.
Since people are asking, Rand’s first use of the Power is healing Bela of her fatigue. He feels the effects later in Baerlon, I think.
Are there any Theorylanders/Dragonmounters who can confirm this for me? Maybe give some specifics or a thread for people?
Didn’t Moiraine bring that to his attention at the end of The Eye of the World or The Dragon Reborn ?
I think she did, but either way, I missed it first read-through.
Actually doesn’t Moiraine confirm it later, she says something like “I had suspicions from the first…then there was Bela…”
I was asking for confirmation on his sickness, not whether he channeled. :)
On the subject of Rand’s channeling, a lot of people are bringing up the event on the ship outside of Shadar Logoth.
I’ll talk about this when we get there. I’ve read a lot of theories on this one arguing for both sides. I’ve never made up my mind.
Wotfaq on Rand channeling: http://bit.ly/fBBrCz I’ve read enough questions from theory-types on the second one to make me question.
Like what? Seems pretty straightforward to me.
And…Linda to the rescue. Once again, 13th Depository has an exhaustive look at all this: http://bit.ly/gYgU7Z (Thanks @einarjh.)
She doesn’t question it either. :D I have not seen a case against it. Also, Vin using up her ‘luck’ reminded me of that. :)
Brandon, come on over. We’d love to “entertain” your theory against Bela. :)
My theory against Bela?
Thought “theories on this one arguing for both sides. I’ve never made up my mind” meant you were undecided on Bela…
…as the first instance of channeling. But now I see you were speaking of the sickness.
The ship is what I was talking about. I remember reading, in the early days, some people trying to refute that one.
The reason everyone misses the first times Rand channels is because the sickness after the lightning is so much more memorable.
The mast swinging and killing a Trolloc, right? I remember thinking ta’veren during my re-read.
That’s what I thought for a long time too. Might still think it. I want to watch it this read.
Re: Rand’s first channelings—do you know of the theory that Rand channeled to bring them to the Eye…
Compare the last few moments before they reach the Eye with when Rand heals Bela of her tiredness.
If that is one of the first channelings, it’s not on any list. Always intrigued me. RJ was so subtle sometimes.
I’ll watch for that, Luckers. Thanks for the heads up.
Okay, we come to Rand using the One Power to swing the boom on the ship and hit the Trolloc. The argument against this one…
…is that the Power doesn’t actually seem to move the boom. The boat shakes for some reason, which swings it down.
In the other two cases, Rand does something actively. In this, it seems more accidental. It’s enough of an argument to make me wonder.
Who says Rand didn’t shake the boat with the Power? Besides, the aftereffects are what make us sure.
I agree. He jolted the boat which dislodged many Trollocs and the boom swept the one attacking him away.
Are you saying him being ta’veren caused it to move?
I’m saying I’ve been made to wonder. The biggest point against it is the sickness he feels after.
So, Rand on the rigging really must be an after-effect of channeling. But it doesn’t HAVE to mean he did it on the night with the boat.
It could have happened in the days between, and… and I’m sounding like @theoryland, aren’t I? You guys are a bad influence on me.
If you actually hung out @theoryland you would never put such an unsupported theory forward for fear of our scorn. ;)
Sometimes, Occam’s Razor is your friend. Alas.
Ha. You want me to think your theories are all well-supported? You think I haven’t heard @theoryland’s Avi theory?
Hey, that was MY theory. And it was way more supported than yours! hmph… (though I didn’t believe it really)
Ouch. I should get Jenn to do an Asmodean panel at JordanCon. I need an outlet for my glossary disdain.
While all of us in the apathy camp think the glossary reveal was JUST PERFECT TAKE THAT YOU CHUMPS.
Of course you were happy, because it was the apathetic way to reveal it…I really need that panel, Jenn!
Tell Shannan. I think we have room for another theory panel.
Also, Moiraine clearly says that early unconscious channeling always comes in response to a desperate need.
We know it was smooth sailing after they left Shadar Logoth, so no opportunity to make Rand channel.
Where did you get the idea that this was my theory? Just something I was curious about. :P
Just from the fact that you were, you know, defending it. :p I know you said you had read it back in the day though.
Unfortunately, I don’t really GET to have theories any more, since I can just look up the answers or ask Maria. :(
And the theories I do have I don’t really get to post about, since they will influence the series end. Maybe once A Memory of Light is done,
I’ll pick a few things the notes are silent on, explain that they’re silent, then jump in with some good, old-fashioned theories.
That won’t stop me from making random comments as I read, though, so maybe those count as my theories.
I am keeping a list, though, to get answers on as I go. Already got a few, actually….
That would be awesome. In the meantime, feel free to defend silly theories. It gives us something to do. ;)
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